Back to the Mundane After Some Controversy

I never really imagined that I had such a considerable penchant for stirring sheep into sheep seething with rage, as is evident from the array of comments that have been left on my previous entry. If I learnt of this earlier in life, I probably could have put it to such a lot of good use :-) In any case, thank you all for your comments. A little bit of controversy and a whole lot of angry people is good every once in a while so thanks again for making it entertaining. One thing certainly has come out of all this – I know I have a wide readership that is watching me like a hawk!

In the meantime, my life is certainly proceeding at its normal pace so it is time once again to return to dwelling on that.

This last Friday was a fun day. The Engg. Career Center was conducting mock interviews for people who needed some practise and I decided that signing up for one would be good idea since I haven’t interviewed in the US before. I showed up for the interview all dressed up and admittedly, it went off pretty smoothly. I ended up getting a semi-job offer which I think I shall follow up on sometime but since the company in question is not exactly my favourite, I am going to wait. The good thing was that since it was a pretty standard interview, I got to practice all my lines!

In the evening, Booze and I went to the Saint Louis Symphony since it was the start of the season and as Wash U students, we get a pretty nice discount. As Booze and I were trying to buy the tickets, I wondered whether it matters where you sit in a symphony hall. Since most of these structures are built with acoustics in mind (like reverbration time should ideally be 1.8s), I figured it wouldn’t really matter, but I am not entirely sure.

The three pieces they played this time were by Britten, Haydn and Tchaikovsky. I haven’t heard of Britten before (not that I know anything more than a pittance about Western Classical Music but still) so I was a little more attentive as they played the piece. I have to admit that it wasn’t really to my liking – the music was very nocturnal and had a lot of sudden changes in tempo (the kind of music you would put in an action sequence in an English movie). The second piece was ‘Concerto in D Major’ by Haydn. What really struck me about this were the exquisite piano solos and the particular dexterity with which the pianist played. The music was very cheerful, had a quick tempo, and was very melodious (from my perspective) and I enjoyed it thoroughly. The last one was by Tchaikovsky and lasted a full 43 minutes. It was certainly very different from the first two and provided a nice contrast. I didn’t pay too much attention during this one, so I am ill-qualified to say much.

Friday evening saw most of the young Indian crowd in St. Louis descend onto Club Viva in Central West End for the Bhangra Party organized by NetSAP. I showed up too along with a bunch of friends, and was quite amused to see that there are actually so many young Indians around in St. Louis! I had a reasonably good time although I have to say that the DJ was not exactly the most brilliant one I have come across in recent times. I am no expert on mixing (and don’t even attempt to become one) but I assumed that it would be only natural that the music transition from one song to another as smoothly as possible. I least expected to be found suddenly hit by the realization that the song everybody was dancing to mysteriously went blank only to be replaced by another song with completely the wrong beat!

Talking about work, my thesis-writing is proceeding at a pretty rapid pace and Pavan and I are also making some good progress on getting our experiments done for the paper we plan to send out to USENIX so things look good on that front.

And finally to end, a note on the weather. In St. Louis, it is beginning to turn to winter again. Just this morning I walked out of my building happy to feel the nice 60 F breeze. I reminded myself about wearing shoes in a few days (vs the floaters I wear during the summer) and thought about the close to 2 years I have spent here in St. Louis. I don’t think I did very badly for myself – life was good to me, fortunately. But something tells me I am going to miss St. Louis …

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  • http://www.livejournal.com/~shortindiangirl Anjana

    Benjamin Britten is indeed known for dark songs and unusual tempo. Even his “cheerful” songs are usually set to dark lyrics, which make for dark comedy of sorts. I sang several of his pieces in my undergrad choir and found them to be very musically moving with the tempo changes contributing the (often fearful) mood of the piece.

  • http://later sri

    Hello Ravi:

    Well I just want to comment my observations regarding last week comments in your blog.

    Well i think IITians *DO DESERVE* all the attention or hype(whatever they callit). Interestingly your brother says:

    >>The IITs are known for their BTechs…

    I think thats an overstatement. Check with some researchers at IIT-K.

    >>No matter which component or dimension of the IITian experience you speak of, people will always see it as that chauvinism speaking.

    Well you dont have any respect for a fellow IITian (leave lone the program he is pursuing) and go on to state something like above…Hmm I think you are conflicting your selves in that case.

    >>Hold your head high. Say it with pride. The IITs rock! Love us. Hate us. Cartoon us.Lampoon us. You still can’t capture what life here is about until you join us.

    Well everybody, like ravi says, from St.Xavierian, anRECian…can say the same thing too..its not *REALLY A BIG DEAL*. Well Rahul, it might be a BIG DEAL for you family and you got to be proud about it, but do not boast the same thing to fellow international researchers or students when you are abroad…most of them dont give a damn about where you are from but rather they respect for the quality of your research…(may be the B.Tech curriculum strength might help you here)

    >>Really, Ramakrishnan? 5 out of 60? …

    The above statement would have been stronger had RAHUL got selected into Mckinsey….anyway it doesnt matter if its 5/60 or 40/60…as he is, as he says, “…..part of that remaining scum?”

    Hopefully, you will take it as constructive criticism. Cool down your hot head learn from you brother..even his response holds the class that he is made of, leave one some overstatements.
    I think your brother is much wiser than Vinod Khosla of SUN microsys. fame. why? because ravi said:
    >>However, if I were a recruiter, I would certainly take a candidate more seriously if his resume showed he was from IIT just as I would if it said MIT or LSE instead.

    (dont quote me on this one)

    Khosla said (On CBS 60 minutes) has asserted that he would take IIT ians from the candidate pool before anyone else …and what exactly happened got his ass, okay as he is an IIT ian let me re-phrase, got his BRAIN sued …..correct me if am wrong..(i can tell you the EXACT amount. Mind me not from any media reports). Bottom line is you have to be smarter.

    anyway people, peace out
    -peja

    –”Be kind, for everyone you meet in life is fighting a great battle”
    from:
    philo of alexandria. In Lost in America-
    by Christopher, Nuland.

  • http://www.rpmduplex.net/ravi/BoozeLog Vignesh/Booze

    Dear Peja/Sri (I dont know which one is your nickname and which one is the real one :-) )
    I kind of agree with you that if you are in the research/tech field, ultimately what matters is the quality of work, and people notice that more than anything else.. if your undergrad background gives you a strong grounding for being able to do effective work, great!
    But, employers *DO* give credence to *that IIT* thing.. I am not defending it here, I am merely stating a fact and this is from personal experience.. an interview (not conducting by Vinod Khosla :-) ) I attended recently started off with the CBS 60 min piece on IITs, and how the interviewer thought that I had it in me.. now, it is ofcourse in my ability to convince him/her with the quality of my work, but it definitely did give me a kick for 20 secs :-) and I think that is purely stemming out of a human emotion, one likes to be recognized for some brand name. And I can also say, why not? I am not denying the fact that there are other people as good as me or much better who are not from IIT when I say that I can take credit for the toil of 2 yrs to get in, and graduating from the system..
    But I do agree with one of Rahul’s statements: people/media eulogize IITians first, as long as they dont speak :-) But the moment they say open their mouths to say (or in this case, write) something, it is stereotyped as an IITian response, both in the positive sense (well, actually this usually implies they are calling us nerds) or negative sense (implying we are being haughty).. and this happens amongst friends, relatives, colleagues, wherever.. why this stereotypical response? Why extol and then condemn them of being proud? I am talking of the general case.. I am sure IITians have plenty of experience with “oh..!! you are from … I…I..T? must be *very* brilliant!! do you study all the time?! you dont have good social skills (this one is mostly from the women ;-D) ” kind of conversations :-) .. and going behind that “IITian” cover sometimes is the least hassle way out of that kind of conversation..(I am also not differentiating between B.Techs and post grads here)
    And one more thing, I have known Ravi, Rahul, and few others who comment on this page for a long time, and I definitely can say that we are the last people who go about strutting with an IITian tag on our foreheads, infact it takes quite some time before any of our non-IIT friends know that we are from IIT, and it has never affecting our interaction with our close friends or colleagues…we are normal people, who do get incensed if people take personal digs at us having had the ability and/or good fortune of going through one of the most rigorous undergrad systems in India.. if there is a dispute on that, we can definitely debate it out offline :-)

    Peace!
    -Vignesh

  • Krishna

    Sheesh…I thought 10 comments on the previous entry was over the top. This seems to be a never ending string of responses…dignifying comments that have absolutely no point with a hot headed/calm response is …well…equally irresponsible.

    aren’t there better things to talk about/argue?

  • sri

    Hey Vignesh, Ravi:

    Good Morning guys!!! how is weather back down in St.Louis…It looks like start of winter at my place.
    Anyway before I run out my morning caffine I wanted to reply to your comments. First of all thanks for taking time. I think, I am on same page with you (vignesh). Well If am not wrong I dont think or mentioned that Ravi(or his brother)is carrying out his undergrad alumnus tag on his forehead.

    The only thing that I bothered to reply to all the earlier comments was only because lack of respect for a fellow IIT ian. Well one(B.Tech- IIT ian) need not have any regard or respect for non-B.tech IIT ian but do not disrespect, which I felt someone was going berserk at, in their comments. As I mentioned earlier, Ravi is I am sure humblest and the only reason I keep comming back to his blog is only because I think he writes very well and I am trying to appreciate and learn good writing.
    Also vignesh regarding your comment:
    >> good social skills , women, IITian

    let me list my buddies who were very good in the above mentioned area:
    couple of my buddies (from IIT-B)
    : one of them dated a polish women (working under a nobel laurette)
    : one got married to american(they have a daughter now, do you know what he has done for adventure when he was at IIT-B, went to a brothel -in Mumbai, he kind of has a craving for it i dont know that was for good or bad but am glad and happy for him that he got married. And again possess very high ‘analytical’ thinking)
    my roomie for 18 months (IIT-M) is zara Hut-ke lots of women ‘friends’ (1% male friends) but very well dignified (no bad intentions….)
    and I have a couple more…but let me stop the list there. (By the way most of the above mentioned are in their mid-twenties)
    Anyway, Hey good luck to you (vignesh) with women!!!!

    and good luck for ravi with his thesis..

    -peace

  • Shelley

    Hey,

    60F!!! OMG!!! Up here in the back of beyond we have been in the mid 40′s during the day (and cooler at night)… Today is the warmest day in weeks at 49F!!! Enjoy the weather while you can…

    Shells

  • http://ravirao.net/ ravi rao

    IIT bashers (with the exception of Ramakrishnan) on this thread on RPM’s blog, here’s two words for you:

    “Grow up”.

  • sammy

    just want to let you know,
    am not angry, i give a rats ass about MIT, IIT whatever, if it makes you feel good to think about IIT everyday, good for you.
    i never understood the indians, go to a party everybody wants to know your major, GPA crap..
    do i feel insecure about somebody being from an IIT, na, probably feel insecure if you hit on my girlfriend…
    one question: this IIT thing it probably works only when you are among Indians, or you kinda use it with white ppl too..? i mean does it work..

    peace